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If it's the coolant hard line that causing the issue, remove it and make your own like I did on my 20G. Stupid simple.
 
Seems like every time I see a mention of the 20G, someone always recommends the 1.5XT-R as the better option.

I'm also surprised to see the stock motors holding up to upgraded turbos AND E85!
 
I have the Cobb 20g, was first one to get it installed right after they introduced it along with their larger injectors and fuel pump. I LOVE it, getting equal or better mpg when off of it, and tons more power. i will say there is more lag without a doubt, but i just drive it as two cars now, when wanting to have an economy car, can get 24-25 mpg staying in the 2k-3k rpms area....but when keeping in the higher rev the larger turbo REALLY wakes up, very nicely.
 
Is Calvin the one with a little bit of an accent and drives the Black '04 STi?
Not sure. There's a guy there named Neal with a British accent, and I think he drives an older STi.

I don't remember an accent with Calvin, and when I was there he was driving a primered 70's or 80's Chevy pickup that about knocked down the walls with it's rumble.
 
It doesn't quite work that way.
Then I'd love to see your list of larger turbos that spool as faster, or faster, than the stock turbo.

If I can find a larger turbo that spools-up faster and at a lower RPM than the stock turbo, and makes significantly more power, then I may forego E85.
 
Largely, you're going to do the research yourself. I just showed a comparison of two cars I tuned (one being mine) with the exact same mods except for the turbo and they spooled pretty much identically.

However, I suggest reading this entire thread: Next Gen is here: Full-Race/Borg-Warner EFR7163 in stock location. 440whp/443wtq - NASIOC

You'll have a hard time, if at all finding a turbo to spool faster than what a stock turbo is capable of, and be larger. Subaru's have too much exhaust pipe from the head to the turbo. If you're willing to bring the turbo closer to the heads, you can go larger and larger without a huge sacrifice on spool (compared to stock) until you go very large.
 
Largely, you're going to do the research yourself. I just showed a comparison of two cars I tuned (one being mine) with the exact same mods except for the turbo and they spooled pretty much identically.

However, I suggest reading this entire thread: Next Gen is here: Full-Race/Borg-Warner EFR7163 in stock location. 440whp/443wtq - NASIOC

You'll have a hard time, if at all finding a turbo to spool faster than what a stock turbo is capable of, and be larger. Subaru's have too much exhaust pipe from the head to the turbo. If you're willing to bring the turbo closer to the heads, you can go larger and larger without a huge sacrifice on spool (compared to stock) until you go very large.
So it's not simply in the tune, but physical changes as well.
 
There are a lot of factors, the tune being one of them. You can aid in turbo spool via retarded timing, leaner AFR, and AVCS.

For the comparison I did in the context I responded to, it's the tune or you've got a leak.
 
Then I'd love to see your list of larger turbos that spool as faster, or faster, than the stock turbo.

If I can find a larger turbo that spools-up faster and at a lower RPM than the stock turbo, and makes significantly more power, then I may forego E85.
Dom 1.5 XTR has shown to give 100 horsepower gain at redline with no loss of spool time over the stock turbo in some simple bolt on combo's.
 
The GD intercooler does not hang over the turbo as far as the GR/GV.

From Cobb in the last 9 hours:

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I'm willing to bet that the coolant pipe that goes over the turbo is the problem.


Cobb also doesn't confirm this on a 2015 STi, but someone has it working.

Cobb TDO5H 20G - 8cm Turbo Review - NASIOC


Here is what I did to get my Blouch 20G/TD05/8cm to fit:

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Not sure. There's a guy there named Neal with a British accent, and I think he drives an older STi.

I don't remember an accent with Calvin, and when I was there he was driving a primered 70's or 80's Chevy pickup that about knocked down the walls with it's rumble.
Must have been Neal, he was the one that repositioned my Cobb exhaust so that is squared up. Its nice to have a hydraulic lift handy!

Really nice guy, we got to talking about corporate Cobb's idea of stage 3 versus what they recommend in Plano for Stage 3. The big difference is that Plano recommends this turbo or one similar to it when you go to Stage 3 as well as everything else that comes with it. They saw much more reliable and sustainable power gains once you switched out the turbos.

Something to consider when I decide to go that route.
 
It's a GD, but this is at ~18 PSI on E85 which was a break-in tune... Seriously, this is how I broke in the new motor. And I suck at drag racing.

 
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